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		<title>Commiting to Whole Conversation</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Image via Wikipedia I often have inspirational thoughts in my head that I hope will help me have a better life. Sayings like &#8220;do one thing today that will change your life&#8221; or &#8220;speak your truth from your heart&#8221; or &#8220;listen to be heard&#8221;. The problem is most of these don&#8217;t stick. I suppose they [...]<p>a</p>

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<p>I often have inspirational thoughts in my head that I hope will help me have a better life. Sayings like &#8220;do one thing today that will change your life&#8221; or &#8220;speak your truth from your heart&#8221; or &#8220;listen to be heard&#8221;. The problem is most of these don&#8217;t stick. I suppose they serve their purpose and then fade away.</p>
<p>There are a few, however, that do seem to stick. And I am really aware of one of them right now in my life. My inspiration is &#8220;I will commit to showing up for a whole conversation in my significant relationships (and sometimes my not so significant relationships)&#8221;.</p>
<p>What this means for me is that whether it takes 5 seconds or a life time I will keep showing up until I feel connected and resolved. Specifically it means:</p>
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<li>I assume there might be more to say or hear even after a subject or issue has come and gone. Some issues just take a long time to resolve, if they ever resolve.</li>
<li>There is always something more to learn</li>
<li>If I walk away mad or with a grudge or sad there is more to say.</li>
<li>That I have gained little in my life by not speaking my truth. Eventually it comes out anyway.</li>
<li>I will have to wade through my fight or flight tendencies when I feel angry or unmet and make a choice to stay in for the lesson.</li>
<li>I may not get what I want. The other person(s) in the relationship may choose to end the conversation early.</li>
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<p>I figure most of its about me anyway and it ties to this other manifesto I have which is to have the courage to see myself more clearly, everyday. By staying in the conversation, by not leaving when I am mad, or fustrated, or hurt I give myself the opportunity to grow, heal and learn. In other words I get the lesson.</p>
<p>The beauty of the lesson? I do, for the first time in my life, consistently feel close to my spouse. We have had many of the traditional challenges of other couples who have not stayed together. There was plenty of anger, disappointment, sadness, etc. to go around. But we kept showing up. Neither of has yet said I am done. (Even though in my anger I really wanted too) I am also lucky my spouse Jody kept showing up too.</p>
<p>As an aside I have to give some credit to an old adviser Timeto. About 15 years ago he said to me, right in the middle of one of the most stressful times in my marriage, &#8220;you will know its time to go when you can do it with out anger and regret&#8221;.</p>
<p>Right now I am experiencing this with my men&#8217;s group. Something has shifted in our dynamics. What once felt safe, fun and really was something I looked forward too each week no longer was any of that for me. I still love the men in the group but I found myself not wanting to come.</p>
<p>We are talking about it. Its started several weeks ago and the conversation continues. It is hard and stressful and challenging and I want to stay home. If I stay home I don&#8217;t have to speak about my anger or judgments. Nor do I have to hear others judgments of me or feel their anger.</p>
<p>But I know if I did I would be walking away with sadness, anger and regret. I would not get the healing. And most importantly I would miss growing closer to men that I care about.</p>
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		<title>Deep Love</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Owen Marcus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A recent article in the New York Times speaks about love. I&#8217;m not talking about the love we see on TV, in the movies or read about. I am talking about the love that transcends the pain of the old love dying, the love that felt real until it is not there any longer. Laura [...]<p>a</p>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent article in the New York Times speaks about love. I&#8217;m not talking about the love we see on TV, in the movies or read about. I am talking about the love that transcends the pain of the old love dying, the love that felt real until it is not there any longer.</p>
<p>Laura Munson is a distant neighbor of ours. She lives in <a class="zem_slink" title="Whitefish, Montana" rel="geolocation" href="http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=48.4116666667,-114.34&amp;spn=0.1,0.1&amp;q=48.4116666667,-114.34%20%28Whitefish%2C%20Montana%29&amp;t=h">Whitefish, MT</a>. Just over the river and through a few woods from <a class="zem_slink" title="Sandpoint, Idaho" rel="geolocation" href="http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=48.2755555556,-116.559166667&amp;spn=0.1,0.1&amp;q=48.2755555556,-116.559166667%20%28Sandpoint%2C%20Idaho%29&amp;t=h">Sandpoint, ID</a>. Also a transplant from New England, she carved out a life in Montana that was idyllic until her husband came home and told her he never loved her and wanted a divorce.  Read the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/02/fashion/02love.html?_r=6">article</a> to hear her describe her iterations.</p>
<p>Her mantra was, &#8220;It&#8217;s not about me.&#8221; It never is. We project on to each other to escape our pain. She held to a deep faith that she could only affect her world. She couldn&#8217;t change her husband. We never can. We often want to. Even when we think we have, it often backfires. The resentment comes back hard or we get what we thought we wanted, but proves to be not what we needed.</p>
<p>Each week in our men&#8217;s group, we support each of us through our BS to a new place of authenticity, a place of self-love. It is a place where what we do or have is not why we are loved. It is who we are being in the moment. After several of these moments we start to believe maybe we are loveable for just being ourselves.</p>
<p>Laura nails it. She is a woman of deep courage and love.</p>
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		<title>A Relationship On the Path</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Owen Marcus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Socrates said that “the unexamined life is not worth living”. “Not worth living” might be a bit extreme but I do agree with the sentiment as I am a self-professed life-examining junkie. Personal growth is my passion and the path of a seeker is definately not for the faint of heart. I feel the same [...]<p>a</p>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Socrates said that “the unexamined life is not worth living”. “Not worth living” might be a bit extreme but I do agree with the sentiment as I am a self-professed life-examining junkie. Personal growth is my passion and the path of a seeker is definately not for the faint of heart. I feel the same way about relationships and there have been times when the two paths have been at odds heading for virtual destruction. Committing to one’s own path of self discovery can certainly be a scary and sometimes dangerous thing to do to a relationship. It could really monkey up the works, couldn’t it? Seekers are often faced with the question of which is riskier, staring certain change in the face or snuggling into the security of familiarity. After almost 23 years of marriage I’ve spent many hours on the fence, chewing my nails and creasing my butt while wrestling with just that question. I generally jump onto the side of change because if I’m going to suffer I’d at least like it to be productive, you know, move me forward, but sometimes it can take a while.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">One of the scariest times for me came when I had been working on my self long enough to notice that my husband wasn’t really “that into” personal growth or the idea of “building a better relationship”. Building a better sailboat – yes, he was definitely interested in that, but as far as looking at himself, well let’s just say he wasn’t terribly motivated. Opening my eyes to that reality was scary (no wonder I stayed in denial so long). “How is this going to work?” I thought to myself, “Look at him he’s standing still and I’m like a shooting star blazing across the cosmos on the fast track to enlightenment! How can he possibly hang with me?! Not to mention I can’t have him holding me back!” (I actually used those words or something equally embarrassing.)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Turns out my worst fear came true. Not the fear that worried he wouldn’t get his you-know-what together but the fear that was hiding right behind it. The one that said “What if he turns to me and says, ‘You’re right, Jo, I haven’t been showing up and working on my side of this thing. I’m in and I want to join you on the path.’?” That’s what he did and the only thing I could say was&#8230;.”Gulp!” Then I think I turned and ran shouting, “I was just kidding!” over my shoulder. I ran and he chased. Turns out I wasn’t as interested as I thought.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">It wasn’t until a few years later when we met a wonderful therapist that I stopped running. She helped us pull our marriage out of the dumpster. I seem to remember that Wayne threw it there when he got tired of chasing me. She (the therapist) wanted to know why I was running. Good question, goooood question. She helped me sit still long enough to find out what was so scary about showing up for my marriage. The list was long, the fears were valid. (An interesting little side note, I wasn’t the only one afraid. Who knew?) </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">She helped us build a safe foundation of love and trust between the two of us <span style="text-decoration: underline;">and</span> within ourselves so that we could truly take advantage of what a committed, creative relationship can provide. She helped us lay our fears and our judgements right there on the table. Yikes! One of my long-standing fears was “what if he’s not the “one” for me?” Another favorite was “what if we create a great connection and then he leaves me or dies? That’s going to hurt so much it will surely kill me”. We saw how our “insidious” little judgments of eachother were sucking the life out of our relationship. Maybe he didn’t feel safe when I secretly referred to him as a “Neanderthal!” I’m sure that his view of me as a “frigid flake” didn’t contribute to intimacy either. But those were real and alive inside us. We peeked around to see what was behind them and learned a lot (too much to share here!).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Ultimately our therapist gave us a place and a way to tell the truth, each our own truth. Scary business that truth telling is. Everything is risked each time the truth is told but if you can do it the rewards are incredible. The things you learn about yourself, the wounds that can be healed, the confidence you build within yourself and the way you see your mate make it all worth it. It increases your capacity for love and acceptance of yourself and others. I think that’s what we’re here for. </span></p>
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